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Letters to Cyclingnews - June 26, 2008

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ASO's hidden agenda
ASO's world domination
Ban Boonen?
Gilberto Simoni
Giro d'Italia
iPods while riding
Oval bars
Tour without minimum bike weight rule?
What about Friere

ASO's hidden agenda

It is truly a shame to watch Astana have such an exciting presence in the peloton, all for naught. Over and over we are hearing how wrong it has been for ASO/Tour de France to have excluded them from the "biggest" race of the year. How incomplete the peloton will be without their presence. Do you really think that those comments and observations are leaving any impression on ASO and Monsieur Prudhomme? I think not, their arrogance is as thick as medieval armour.

Then we hear the riders lament that they are in the middle of a huge political power struggle between the two biggest alphabetical entities in the sport of cycling, ASO and UCI. Aw, the poor riders, just little pawns, in the big game. Unfortunately, since they insist on that assignment in the overall scheme of things, the Tour will tower above them, and grow into the Colossus that it is in the process of doing.

Cementing a collaboration with the Amgen Tour of California, and buying almost half of the Vuelta, they are trying to seal up the major stage races of the year, under their influence. It may already be too late for the Lilliputians to stop the Juggernaut, unless they realize that the whole world is a political stage, and that they (the riders and the sponsors) hold pretty powerful positions.

Currently, we are watching the Boonen affair, and anxiously waiting to see if anybody can sway Prudhomme, the ASO and their Tour into letting Tom ride. But somehow, I wouldn't put money on him lining up for stage one in Brest. Because just as in the classic American movie, appropriately named, "Gone with the Wind" I think Prudhomme and his boys and girls feel: "Frankly, We don't give a Damn!" They are so full of themselves, and the gains they have made against the UCI, and it's ProTour. That they don't care what anybody feels or says about them.

If I had one wish, it would be to see the riders and sponsors collaborate, in standing down for the Tour de France. To bring that race and its organizers back down to earth. Because right now, you either see the world through their vision, or they don't let you play. And I'm sorry, but I don't see anything good for the sport of cycling, coming out of the ASO domination of the sport.

New York, NY, USA

Friday, June 20, 2008

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ASO's world domination

ASO is a business, so the fact that they are making moves designed to increase their profits should not be surprising, or even upsetting. To say they don't have cycling's best interests at heart are also unfair and premature: they have put on the Tour de France for many years, and it continues to be the greatest cycling event in the world (not necessarily the greatest race, but that's another story), despite the idiocy of certain riders painting black marks on the race. They realize that what is best for cycling is also best for business. Let's wait to see if ASO's influence makes the Vuelta better or worse before we condemn their supposed "monopoly".

Finally, it is also a bit rich to complain about the ASO being hungry for power, while simultaneously defending the UCI. The UCI is all about power, while the ASO is merely trying to avoid having the UCI lust for power negatively impact ASO business. I personally find it unfortunate that UCI mistakes have led to a leadership void that has to be filled by a business.

Rob Found

Thursday, June 19, 2008

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Ban Boonen?

There's something I don't quite understand. Why should an athlete's (anybody's) personal habits, so long as they don't infringe upon the rules of professional sports (or others' self determination), matter one iota to the public? Did Boonen's taking cocaine outside competition break the doping rules of professional cycling? No. Case dismissed.

Well then, why should the public give a damn? Oh but then I wake up from my stupor: it's the same moralistic public that gave a damn about Clinton and Lewinsky, which, being personally frustrated and envious of those with more talent, or more power or fame, can't help themselves from opening the enth (and thoroughly tiresome and exasperating) inquisition.

For them the heroes must behave impeccably, with no moral slips, otherwise the denouncing cries are heard loudly. The problem is that these same folks probably have a few skeletons in there own closet, which should act as a call to prudence to not denounce others' too passionately or to be so quick to an absolute sentence without appeal. Usually these critics however, like the married preacher who publically decries sex as the devil's recreation but then gets caught with a prostitute, can't live up to the immaculate standards they expect from everyone else. Then I ask myself if Boonen's cocaine sniffing may have even hurt his performances, in which case he's been damaged for the second time by a hypocritical public. Ban Boonen? Please!

Rob Huber

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

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Ban Boonen? #2

Cocaine is an illegal drug, and while it is certainly not a performance enhancer anywhere but the dance floor, many workplaces now have a zero tolerance policy on illegal drugs. Why should a professional cyclist be treated any differently to worker in an office or a production worker? If I tested positive test for cocaine at a work random drug test, it would probably cost me my job or if not, then some serious counselling, time away from work and rehabilitation to correct my errant ways.

His team have decided that they can protect one of their best assets and still conform to society’s perception of drug use as bad and evil by choosing to help poor Tom overcome his personal problems.

These guys live in the public eye and while I don’t believe they shouldn’t make mistakes, they should atone for them.

Lucky for Tom he has some rainbow stripes on his sleeves and a couple of cobbles on his mantelpiece, because I wager it would be a very different matter if he was a team domestique in his first year.


Thursday, June 19, 2008

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Ban Boonen? #3

Ban Rabobank? As you state "what did they do wrong" Rasmuussen did not fail a drug test. Nor did any other rider from the team. Astana had two riders from their tour squad fail drug tests and they denied it till the truth came out.

At least Rabobank had the integrity of the sport in mind when making their decision to withdraw Rasmussen. Here is a new line of thought: what about Cofidis, their rider Christian Moreni was also booted out of the Tour for failing a drug test. So why can they start this year?


Thursday, June 19, 2008

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Gilberto Simoni

Help, I can't stand reading these letters that use the term "pre-Madonna" for Gilberto Simoni. Just what do you think that means? How old is Madonna and what does she have to do with Simoni?

Whatever you think of Simoni, the term you are looking for is actually "prima donna," Italian for "first lady". The term was used to designate the leading female singer in the opera company. To quote from Wikipedia, "Legendarily, these "prima donnas" (prime donne in Italian) were often regarded as egotistical, unreasonable and irritable, with a rather high opinion of themselves not shared by others. Although whether they are truly more vain or more hot-tempered than other singers (or than any other people in the opera houses) is not substantiated, the term often signifies a vain, obnoxious and temperamental person who, although irritating, cannot be done without."


Anna Maria Simonelli
Berkeley, CA, USA

Sat, 21 Jun 2008

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Giro d'Italia

While I have to admit to wearing my iPod while commuting to work, which 3/4 of the route is on a committed bike trail, I have never worn it out on a training ride. Riding hip to bumper at times with traffic and big trucks is dangerous enough, and a big part of that is listening for vehicles coming from behind you as well as ahead. I just count on my hearing too much to help keep me safe out on the road. I won't train with an iPod.

Eugene, Oregon

Monday, June 23, 2008

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iPods while riding

The solution is simple. Do as I do and only wear one ear plug. I can hear my music as well as the sounds around me.

San Antonio Texas, USA

Thursday, June 19, 2008

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iPods while riding #2

If not using iPods so greatly increases safety for cyclists on the road, I can only imagine how much safer we all would be if motorists didn't have mega wattage stereos in their cars!

Sydney, Australia

Friday, June 20, 2008

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iPods while riding #3

Mate I worked on a Neurosurgery ward in a large teaching hospital in Perth Western Australia for 3 years and I can tell you that helmets do save lives and are not just a fashion item. As for iPods they are dangerous if worn in both ears and on heavy traffic roads.

As for the battle between ASO and UCI I think that it is only a matter of time before there are two federations and two racing calendar’s. This will damage the sport no end both in the fact it may force riders to choose one set of races over another and thus we the spectators and the riders themselves are robbed of the chance of seeing who the most consistent and possibly greatest rider over an entire season.

And....OMG...who said that Cocaine is not performance enhancing!!!! Tommeke may have said it was a one off but didn't a cyclo cross riding buddy accuse him a being a supplier? I don't actually think he is a doper but a little bit here and there in training maybe?

On Contador being the greatest rider at the moment, sure I agree he is a great rider but he was the only one able to keep up with the Chicken in last years TdF, arguably a big time doper. He has been accused of doping several times and yet nothing has been stuck. Any remember Operation P? He is in the least shady but sure to become a great. Further who is to say that those riders who benefited from years of training and or competing with the aid of drugs will not dominate for some time before the clean younger riders start to make the grade.


Friday, June 20, 2008

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iPods while riding #4

Riding a bike while wearing headphones on a road shared with cars or a multi-use path is as dumb as riding with your eyes closed, especially at the training pace (20 mph+) that many of your readers likely ride. A second of audible warning could save your life.

Jeff Schatz
Columbus, OH USA

Friday, June 20, 2008

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iPods while riding #5

Putting an ear bud in only the right ear does not make iPod usage safe. The left ear will not be able to "hear" car noise until it reaches a volume sufficient to overcome the volume presented to the right ear. Therefore, a rider will not be able to hear a vehicle approaching from the rear until it is much closer. There is a complex explanation for this phenomenon is due to the neural relationship between the brain and the inner ears. In fact, people who are attempting to fake a one-sided hearing loss can be exposed because of this characteristic of our auditory system. iPods are not safe while riding outdoors.

Todd C. Huber
Franklin, TN

Friday, June 20, 2008

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Oval bars

I don't know where you learnt your fluid dynamics but 'narrower' certainly does not equate to more aerodynamic efficiency. This is especially so with low airspeeds as in cycling. A thin wire produces much more drag than one enveloped in a much thicker air foil shaped enclosure.

Also, your mention of frontal area is misleading, especially in relation to handlebars. Clearly, the major part of the frontal area of the bicycle/rider combination is the rider. It is also the rider that produces the most drag due to his/her form. So, if it were allowed by UCI rules, a very large handlebar that assisted airflow over the human body would decrease drag. Similarly, brake hoods that covered the hands would produce less drag. I don't know why this doesn’t appear on TT bikes.

While on the subject it is also a popular misconception that 'smooth' = less drag. Golf balls are covered with carefully engineered dimples to make them fly farther.

Norman Winn
Rennes les Bains, France

Thursday, June 19, 2008

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Oval bars #2

Can I just put in my vote for Morgan Nicol being one of the great guys of cycling.

Having dealt with Morgan before, I can say that his response to a single customer with a problem mirrors his straightforward and honest approach to the letter about 26.0mm bars. I will always run Oval bars and stems on my bikes now because of not only the service I personally received from Morgan, but also because his ideas make sense and he actually thinks about what cyclists need and doesn't just try to sell them something they don't.

Well done Morgan and keep up the good work.

Dean Griffin
Buninyong, Vic, Australia

Thursday, June 19, 2008

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Oval bars #3

I was actually riding in Boston, MA and come upon a rider in full Slipstream-Chipotle kit. He ended up being one of their mechanics who explained to me that the owner of Oval doesn't like to advertise the fact that they manufacture 31.8 bars. Slipstream runs 26.0 bars including the carbon models. Nod.

Alex Mueller
Somerville, MA

Saturday, June 21, 2008

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Oval bars #4

If thick wall/smaller diameter tubing was stronger than thin wall/larger tubing, road frames, regardless of material, would be made of pencil sized tubes and look a bit different than they do these days. And I think anyone who thinks an oversized bar has an adverse effect on a roadracer's aerodynamics has an undersized intellect.

Parker Heath
Lynn, Massachusetts, USA

Monday, June 23, 2008

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Tour without minimum bike weight rule?

So if the TDF is no longer a UCI-sanctioned event, will the riders still need to abide the UCI-dictated minimum bike weight?

Kingfield, Maine, USA

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

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Tour without minimum bike weight rule? #2

Hello guys and girls!

I was wondering if the UCI rule about the minimum bike weight will be enforced in the next Tour de France, because, as everybody now know, declared itself a race not subjected to the rules of the international cycling governing body. So that's the question: - The bikes will still need to weight at least 6.8 kilos?

Danilo Souza

Thursday, June 19, 2008

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What about Freire?

I've used as my source for bike racing info for several years, but I was disappointed yesterday. Everybody claimed that Cancellara took the points jersey, but what about Freire? The champ had a lock on the point’s race but apparently DNS on Sunday. And where did we hear about that? In the live report? No. In the report and results? No. (Well, yes, a "DNS" at the bottom of the finish list two-three hours after the race was over, but no explanation.) Not until today's season summary are we permitted to learn that Oscar didn't fall off the edge of the earth (like Schleck did) or into a black hole (as Kirchen did in the TT).

Finally we get a brief explanation. But way too late.

Don West, Plattsburgh NY

Monday, June 23, 2008

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Letters 2008

  • June 26: ASO's hidden agenda, ASO's world domination, Ban Boonen?, Gilberto Simoni, Giro d'Italia, iPods while riding, Oval bars, Tour without minimum bike weight rule?, What about Friere
  • June 19: ASO and the Vuelta, ASO's world domination, Ban Boonen?, Ban Boonen? Beware the inquisition, Boonen, Boonen vs. Petacchi, Boonen's Tour exclusion, Giro d'Italia, iPods while riding, Oval bars, Road rage incident, Tom Boonen exclusion from Tour de Suisse
  • June 13: Tom Boonen and his nose, Apologies from Montreal, Chantal's Philly win, Gilberto Simoni, Boring first week of Grand Tours?, Giro d'Italia, iPods while riding, ASO and the Vuelta, Road rage incident, Astana chain choice
  • June 5: Apologies from Montreal, Astana chain choice, Bennati and race radios, Race radio?, Gilberto Simoni, Giro winner, Good result in road rage court case, Helmets in the Giro, Lemond vs. Armstrong, Millar, No, no, you can't take that away from them, Oval bars, Review error, Ricardo Ricco, Road rage incident
  • May 29: Bennati and race radios, Helmets in the Giro, Review error, LeMond vs. Armstrong, Losing something in the translation, Millar, Petacchi, Race radio?, Road rage incident, Weight work on the bike
  • May 23: Road rage incident, How much will it take?, Paralysed cyclist, Fausto Exparza, David Millar, Basso gets a contract, Weight work, CAS and Petacchi, Shortest TdF, Petacchi & Piepoli
  • May 15: Sydney road rage incident, Steegmans lashes out at UCI, Steve Hogg's article, World Cup #3 XC, Where is Chris Horner, Slipstream, Astana and Le Tour, Giro stage 5!, US time trial Champion?, Basso gets a contract, Race radios, CAS ruling on Petacchi, Hamilton's integrity? Dude!, Weight work
  • May 8: Race radio?, Ridiculous ruling, What a farce!, CAS ruling on Petacchi, Basso gets a contract, Hamilton's integrity? Dude!, French riders had to give up their jerseys?,
  • May 1: Race radio?, Basso gets a contract, Advise needed for Alpe D'Huez, LeMond vs. Armstrong, Bottles, Scars of war, ProTour in Russia! China? Ahem... America?, LeMond's 1989 TdF, Mayo?, Stuart O'Grady Team CSC Cervélo R3 Paris, Have any French riders had to give up their jerseys?
  • April 25: Just shut up and ride, ProTour in Russia! China? Ahem...America?, Bottles, LeMond's 1989 TdF, New format for the Vuelta? , Scars of war, LeMond v. Armstrong, No tour for Astana #1, Rock Racing rip off #1, Advise needed for Alpe D'Huez, Stuart O'Grady Team CSC Cervélo R3 Paris
  • April 18: Just shut up and ride, USA Track Cycling, Paris-Roubaix, Little Indy 500 - Women's Race Article, Stuart O'Grady Team CSC Cervélo R3 Paris-Roubaix, What's happening to road tubeless?, Thanks Cyclingnews, Bottles, Just think?, Tour of Georgia - Lame, Colavita, No tour for Astana, Clever tactics by McQuaid expose ASO, Suggestions for the little bullies, Rock Racing rip off, LeMond Vs. Trek
  • April 10: Suggestions for the little bullies, Pat McQuaid, Clever tactics by McQuaid expose ASO, Just think, Trek vs. LeMond, Rock Racing rip off, Homepage overhaul, Some praise, USA track cycling, Team car order just the first gamble, Come on Greg & Lance, LeMond vs. Armstrong
  • April 3: Pat McQuaid, April fools, Carbon Wrap-It System, Sylvain Chavanel, Astana vs. Rabobank vs. Slipstream Chipotle, Cadel Evans, Clever tactics by McQuaid expose ASO, Colavita, Let VDB ride?, Race radios, Rock Racing rip off
  • March 27: Riccardo's manner of professionalism, Rock Racing rip off, Chavanel's Paris - Nice shoes, Cadel Evans, Cadel Evans at Paris - Nice, Let VDB ride?, ASO vs. Astana, ASO vs. UCI help me with my memory, Astana vs. Rabobank vs. Slipstream Chipotle, Police kill cyclists,"PRO"cycling teams
  • March 20:"Pro"Cycling Teams, AIGCP does have a choice, ASO vs UCI help me with my memory, ASO vs. Astana, Chavanel's Paris - Nice shoes, Kevin van Impe's doping control, Cadel Evans at Paris - Nice, Hamilton, Operacion Puerto, and the ToCA, Paris - Nice: What it could have been, Police kill cyclists, The Astana affair, UCI hypocrisy
  • March 13:"Pro"Cycling Teams, ASO vs. Astana, ASO vs. UCI, ASOh well, UCI'll see you later, Cycling fans must let their voices be heard, Denounce ASO's actions for what they are, Hamilton, Operacion Puerto, and the ToCA, Knife between the ribs?, Paris Nice, Police kill cyclists, British track sprinters' helmets?, Rock Racing and Michael Ball, The Astana affair, The real ASO problem, Tour and ASO, UCI - very bad poker players, UCI hypocrisy.
  • March 6: Zirbel and the"ride of his life", British track sprinters' helmets, Hamilton, Operacion Puerto and the ToCA, Three grand tours or five monuments?, Rock Racing and Michael Ball, Pro cycling is dead, Paris - Nice, Knife between the ribs?, Doping and the Tour, Astana, the ASO and the UCI, ASO vs. Astana, The Astana affair, ASO vs. UCI vs. AIGCP vs. the non existent riders, The real ASO problem, Denounce ASO's actions for what they are, Sponsorship code of ethics, Where are the other ProTour teams?, ProTour vs. ASO
  • February 28: ASO vs. Astana, Passion and sponsorship, Crash or crash through, Pro cycling is dead, Why we must have the ProTour, Rock Racing and Michael Ball, ToC and Rock, The hidden message behind banning Astana, ASO is killing cycling, ASO could be right, The real ASO problem, UCI - draw a line in the sand, ASO has lost the plot, The Astana affair, Astana and ASO/RCS, the Astana decision, Operacion Puerto, Old rider classification
  • February 15: Doping controls, Tour of California moving up!, Why I love the Tour of California, Operation Puerto, Astana rejected by ASO, Boycott ASO, ASO - stop the madness, Tour de France, ASO is wrong to exclude Astana, Astana, ASO, and the NFL, Tour de Farce, The hidden message behind banning Astana, Astana exclusion, ASO is killing cycling, Astana out of Tour, ASO has lost the plot
  • February 8: Lampre doping controls, Grand Tour Monopoly?, Giro selections, Slipstream Qatar, Allan Davis, Sheldon Brown, Dick Pound to head CAS?, Find out who's leaking lab results, Rock racing
  • February 1: UCI vs. Grand Tour war, Best wishes to Anna, The incident, Rock racing & Starbucks, Rock racing Rocks, Rock racing, Landis in NUE, Lance is the best of all time, Sinkewitz logic, Astana for 08 Tour?
  • January 25: Rock racing, Time to draw a line in the sand, ASO vs. UCI ProTour, UCI vs. Grand Tour war spills over to European federations, Readers' poll stage races 2007, Cyclist of the year, Team High Road's black kit, Lance is the best of all time, Landis in NUE, Toyota-United abusing USAC team rules?
  • January 18: Cadel Evans - returns to training, Cyclist of the Year, DOPING - time to draw a line in the sand, Hincapie in T-Mobile kit, Lance is the best of all time, Readers poll: best stage races 2007, Rock racing, Speaking about Lance, Toyota-United abusing USAC team rules?
  • January 11: Armstrong on Landis, Cadel Evans - returns to training, Hincapie in T-Mobile kit, Ivan Basso - why no tough questions?, Reader Poll, Rock & burn racing, Speaking about Lance, Sydor's consistency, The 'Bruyneel philosophy', Toyota-United abusing USAC team rules?
  • January 5: Great day for cycling, Sydor's consistency, Hincapie in T-Mobile kit, CA awards misses national series, Thank you, Ivan Basso - why no tough questions?, Cadel Evans - returns to training, Helmets belong on heads, Armstrong on Landis, Will there be a Tour of Missouri?, Roberto Heras, Speaking about Lance, Mayo's B Sample

Letters 2007

  • December 27: CA awards misses national series, Armstrong on Landis, Vinokourov's sentence, Vinokourov, Cadel Evans - returns to training, Mayo's B sample to get B test
  • December 14: Sydor's consistency, George Hincapie, Helmet straps must be cinched a bit too tight, Will there soon be a sample"C"test?, ProTour, Vino's joke of a suspension, Mafioso McQuaid, Obee and Health Net, Mayo's B sample to get B test, Campagnolo offers its own 'red' shifter, T-Mobile's withdrawal a blow to Jaksche
  • December 6: Tschüss T-Mobile, Anquetil, Mayo's B sample to get B test, T-Mobile drop out, Obee and Health Net, Stefano Zanini
  • November 30: Anquetil,Mayo's B sample to get B test, Stefano Zanini, Rider's passport, Betting, Jonathan Page, Wake up!!, T-Mobile drop out, Bike design originality
  • November 23: Remembering Jacques Anquetil, Done looking back, Mayo's B sample to get B test, Cross crank, Rider's passport, Blood passports and humanity, Fothen's comments on Bettini, Nathan O'Neill , Sinkewitz, Rasmussen blood values, Sponsorship strangeness, Dick Pound better understood, Bike design originality,
  • November 16: Nathan O'Neill, Rasmussen blood values, The Crocodile Trophy, Sinkewitz, Drug testing procedures, Rider's passport, The drug issue, Bike design originality , Sponsorship strangeness, Selfishness will ruin cycling
  • November 9: The Crocodile Trophy, A little bit of bias here?, Rider's passport, Kasheckin, Positive tests, Drug testing procedures, Marco Pinotti: Engineering a new path, Bike design originality
  • November 2: What does this mean?, Le Tour 08, Mayo's B sample, Bike design originality, Trimble, UCI says Mayo case not closed, Drug testing procedures ... and false positives, Kashechkin: controls violate human rights, Drug testing procedures, Mayo, UCI, Kashechkin, et al... Great, now it's coming from both ends, Positive tests, Why even bother with B samples then?, Mayo's positive EPO test, Falling barriers
  • October 26: Rider passports & Cadel Evans, Drug testing procedures ... and false positives, Iban Mayo's false positive, Iban Mayo and Landis, Armstrong on Landis, Mayo's B sample, UCI turns Mayo's case into a debaucle, they hand pick the results, No justice for Mayo, UCI says Mayo case not closed, Bike design originality, 2006 Tour de France, A bad week for cycling, A fitting end to the season
  • October 19: 2006 Grand Tour trifecta!, 2006 Tour de France, A fitting end to the season, Armstrong on Landis, Bike design originality, doping in cycling, Doping numbers, Paris-Tours testing mishap, UCI and the lack of testing!, Vino's other Tour stage win, The absolute best?
  • October 12: Armstrong on Landis, Bike design originality, Cycling drama, Doping is unfair; but so is discrimination, It’s not doping that's..., Landis case - everyone's a loser, Length and cost of the Landis case, R & R, The Landis decision, Tour of America
  • October 5: Cycle drama, It's not doping that's"killing"the sport, Why is VAM a benchmark, Tour of America, The Landis decision, DYNEPO, Worlds, Rock & Republic's CEO Michael Ball, Please explain, Giuseppe Guerini, FICP
  • September 28: Tour of America, World champion zany-ness, The Landis decision, ASO v UCI, McQuaid vs ASO vs the riders, Please explain, Why is VAM a benchmark, Giuseppe Guerini, Menchov felt betrayed by Rasmussen, ProTour and Le Tour, Where is the due process
  • September 21: Astana's future and Bruyneel, Bruyneel's afterlife, Floyd Landis decision, Why is VAM a benchmark, Lifetime bans, Menchov felt betrayed by Rasmussen, Ungrateful Levi, Spanish cycling, Where is the due process
  • September 14: Astana & Bruyneel, Cycling vs. soccer, Cycling will survive, Floyd Landis decision, LeMond's comments, Menchov felt betrayed by Rasmussen, Ungrateful Levi, Why is VAM a benchmark?
  • September 7: Cycling vs. soccer, Floyd Landis decision, UCI, ASO, LeMond, et al who cares? Riders, Lawyers in the Landis case, LeMond's comments, Riders taking the fall?, US Postal/Discovery R.I.P.

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