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Letters to Cyclingnews - August 19, 2008Here's your chance to get more involved with Cyclingnews. Comments and criticism on current stories, races, coverage and anything cycling related are welcomed, even pictures if you wish. Letters should be brief (less than 300 words), with the sender clearly identified. They may be edited for space and clarity; please stick to one topic per letter. We will normally include your name and place of residence, but not your email address unless you specify in the message. Please email your correspondence to letters@cyclingnews.com. Therapeutic Use Exemptions - please explain Therapeutic Use Exemptions - please explainToday's Cycling News mentioned that 76 of the 180 riders who started the Tour De France had a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE). Does this mean that one of the pre-requisites for becoming a professional cyclist is that you've got a pre-existing medical condition that requires permanent medication? Now I've been enlightened, I'm all the more impressed with the efforts of these guys, knowing that they're all so sick! A quick poll of my office colleagues has shown that, on average, we're healthier than a TdF cyclist. This sounds like a problem we had in Sydney recently, with city workers fraudulently acquiring disabled parking permits so they could get free parking all day. Apparently, it's pretty easy to persuade a doctor you've got a bad back and can't walk from the public car park to your office. Stephen Murray Friday, August 8, 2008 Carlos SastreTom, you need to watch the stage up the Alp again. If it weren't for Vande Velde, Evans would have never caught back on to anyone's wheels. While I commend his tenacity in pursuing his goal of a TDF win. He clearly didn't have it in the last week of the Tour. No fitness, no team, and the only tactic he seems to know. Sastre utilized superior team tactics coupled with the hard fact that Evans and Menchov are better at the TT he threw it on the line and attacked on the hardest stage to put some time into Cadel. Evans should have done the same if he wanted to take that last step up the podium. Travis Sevilla Wednesday, August 6, 2008 Carlos Sastre #2I agree with Jack from Mildura as far as Cadel Evan's is concerned. Since when did personality matter so much in sport? Evan's tells it like it is and does not do the PR crap that others do. Some people always think he has another gear in reserve but I tend to think that he doesn't. He is a clever rider who makes the most of his ability. I don't understand the constant criticism. One good time trial and he would have won the Tour. I doubt that that still would have stopped the silliness. Ian Sharp Thursday, August 7, 2008 Carlos Sastre #3Is it me or all the letters defending Cadel Evans and his wheel sucking ways from Australia? I watched the Tour and figured that Cadel would not win it from the start. The man just doesn’t attack. As for the comments that he lost the tour on the Alpe d’Huez that is true, he did lose it there. Why? Because he did not respond to Sastre’s attack. He probably assumed he could gain time back in the time trial, just like he probably thought that last year. CSC did a “reverse Lance” they attacked on the last mountain and held the lead (which they had gotten a few days before) until the end. And VdV did attack on the Alpe, only to be caught by the Schlecks, it was the previous days stage where he crashed on the descent into the finish that he lost time and a higher GC position Chris Wright Thursday, August 7, 2008 Carlos Sastre #4Tom, I believe your allegiance to Australia has altered your ability to watch a race objectively. Evans on stage 6 had attached himself to Valverde's wheel while Valverde went off in pursuit of a stage win versus "dirty Riccò". Valverde went from one side of the road to the other all with Evans trailing as if they were two riders on a tandem. Evans never once attempted to come around Valverde for the stage win. He was doing what he does best, wheel-sucking in his attempt to avoid losing seconds to Valverde. On stage 1 he was doing the same but he just couldn't follow Valverde's uphill sprint to be able to ride his wheel. I'm sure if he could've he would've. Mark Thursday, August 7, 2008 Carlos Sastre #5In regards to Mitch's letter about Jeff's comments. Just go look at Lance Armstrong stage wins and you will see that he attacked. Granted in a few of the key stages he was not always attacking, but to lump Cadel Evan' and Lance Armstrong' style together is not very smart. Take off your Australian coloured glasses and your feelings may not get in your way of judgement. Brooks Doughtie Thursday, August 7, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPOResponse to Michael Bauman and all the other "immaculate conceptions" Guys let me start by saying I'm disappointed in Ricardo Riccò and anyone who dopes, but let’s not get too precious about it. Its just sport; these men have not murdered anyone. People cheat! And trust me some do worse. The world will always have cheats but don’t hate them and don’t let them take away from the sport you like. I'm confused about the whole concept of "taking the tour back." When was it ever clean? Please tell me? Read any history of the Tour and you will find cheating. History books romanticise about a by gone era of men secretly catching trains or getting lifts in cars, and we find it fascinating. Asking the Tour and sport in general to be clean is like saying we will stamp out drugs in society! You’re setting yourself up for disappointment. We must continue to be strict, and we should remove the riders in question. But don’t hate them for it, instead you should feel sorry for them; sorry they have let all these people down and have to carry around that shame. Let’s not make such a big deal out of it. Make a big deal out of the racing and don’t be so judgemental. None of us are perfect, I'm sure we have all done some bad things once or twice in our lives. As for the companies who pull sponsorship they are kidding themselves aren't they? Most CEO's would sell their souls to turn a dollar. Greg Reynolds Thursday, August 7, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #2Dear Dr. Bauman, With regard to your skepticism I say… Well… Good riddance. Don’t let the door hit ya’ where the good lord split ya’. What else is there to say? A true fan of the sport would see this mess for what it truly is… a transition period. It is a journey to becoming the only, truly, transparently clean sport there is. No other sport is doing what cycling is doing and if they were… boy would you see the cockroaches scatter. They are not doing it however, so we have the illusion of clean sport with all the other sports. Honestly, do you think an American Football player that weighs in at almost 300lbs, whose body is pummelled daily, could still beat most people in the 100 meter dash without some chemical assistance? You are naive sir. When the dust settles after all of the scandals I will know that I am watching a truly clean sport while others are watching a farce. Cycling is doing something… the others are not. ‘Nuff said. We fans of cycling don’t need you right now. You do not see the forest for the trees. I have been riding a bike seriously since 1988. I was 14 years old. I became a cycling sports fan a year later in 1989 when I was lucky enough to catch the final Tour de France time trial… Lemond vs Fignon = Legendary! My love for the sport goes deep. Yours does not. Ciao, Warren Beckford Thursday, August 7, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #3Bravo to Dr. Michael Bauman for a letter that tells the truth and nothing but the truth. The whole peloton has an omerta of silence. The top riders must dope to win or be better than they are. 2 in 10 chances of getting caught; I say those are good odds. Domenic Scali Thursday, August 7, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #4Dr. Bauman, I watched and enjoyed the Tour this year. I'll admit I'm new to the sport and really only got into it around 2004 or so. Still, I love it, follow races as much as I can, and have come to enjoy the comforting pain of riding. I wanted this Tour to be free of positive tests or admittances of cheating. But I also knew that it wasn't likely. Still, watching the riders push themselves, cheating or not, made me love my bike even more. I didn't view it as something left in a toilet. Which leads me to a quote from a television show: "What do you do when you can't do nothing, but there's nothing you can do? I guess you do what you can." Those men raced and did what they could. If a person used drugs to help and didn't get caught, then that's something that they'll have to reconcile with themselves at some point. To the ones that didn't, they can be proud of their accomplishments. There will always be a cheater as long as humans compete. I don't like the idea, but I for one am not going to give up something that I enjoy because some don't have the same morals and ethics I do. As for only rooting for yourself, maybe you should look into triathlons? Tyler Thursday, August 7, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #5Dr Buaman, In response to your letter to cyclingnews, I would just like to say that if you don't want to watch cheaters on TV you had better turn it off all together. Football, Baseball, NASCAR, The Olympics, Tennis, all sports suffer from cheaters. What's different about cycling is that they are actively catching the offenders. So what's better, not to knowing who's cheating or catching them? The only reason you hear so much about dopers in cycling is because they are getting caught through vigorous testing. If you are going to test, you are going to expose the cheaters. Feel free to watch sports that don't test, so you can feel more "comfortable" watching them. Sue Bauer Saturday, August 9, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #6I couldn't help but notice that one of the major sponsors of the Tour de France on Versus was Levitra, certainly a performance enhancing drug. Not that I condone drug use, but I look at our society (all of us) that expects pharmaceuticals to change our lives for the "better", and feel that this is maybe a bit hypocritical. John Kopp Sunday, August 10, 2008 Riccò confesses to using EPO #7Well all I can say is that I honestly believe the sport can not be cleaned up. How can you clean something that has never been clean to begin with? The Tour organizers are fooling themselves. Marco Maggi Thursday, August 7, 2008 Lance and the doping debateZabel admitted to using EPO for a week – Riis had a fairly brief period of competing at the top of the TdF before disappearing in an earlier testing regime – Lance was at the very top for seven years and operated under a far stricter regime – bogus comparisons say more about the letter writer than the athlete being questioned. Craig Mitchell Friday, August 8, 2008 Lance and the doping debate #2I believe Mr. Leyser’s statements shed light on an issue much larger than Lance Armstrong’s achievements and whether or not they were chemically induced. Being a father of three boys, I am sickened by the growing movement in sports, academics and society in general to “average out” greatness. Youth sports no longer have winners and losers, everyone gets a trophy for participation, same in talent shows, science fairs, beauty pageants, etc. I think the true issue here does not even involve Lance, but rather a need by so many mediocre detractors to scrape the top off of human achievement so that the great peaks are pulled down closer to the masses. To quote a line from my son’s favourite cartoon “when everyone is super, no one will be.” Personally, I will risk cheering for a doper if he shows spirit, if he is later proven to be dirty, it’s easy enough to strike him from memory, because our only other option is to watch a bunch of athletes ride together all day to the finish to avoid scrutiny from Mr. Leyser and others who insist on judging humanity through a socialist lens and refusing to believe that anyone can be born, or work to make themselves, better than the next guy. I remember sitting through years of truly dominant performances of Miguel Indurain in the Tour, but since he was a quiet man, no one ever casts doubt on his accomplishments, but let an American man with a personality and a voice do the same, and all the negative test results in the world cannot slow the slinging of accusations. Finally, the argument that years of testing aren’t enough proof that Lance was clean is getting old. I don’t care how they do it in Canada or France; in America you’re innocent until proven guilty. I don’t accuse my wife of having an affair because she is sexy, or my banker of being a thief because he is wealthy or my doctor of cheating in medical school because he was the top of his class, rather, those are the attributes that attract me to each. What a boring world it would be if we were all the same. Henry Corley Friday, August 8, 2008 Lance and the doping debate #3Peter, Yes, I do believe that Lance was “5-10% better clean than all the Euro drug taking competitors”. Besides the fact that Lance never once tested positive in his career (nor did any of his team-mates), his post-cancer Tour performances were incredibly consistent (excluding 2003, when a multitude of things went wrong for him). His winning margins: 1999: 7:37, 2000: 6:02, 2001: 6:44, 2002: 7:00, 2004: 6:19, 2005: 4:40 (second smallest margin). There were no fluctuations in performance that are expected from a doper, especially when you consider that drug testing was improving every year, and the EPO test was available starting in late 2000. As a multiple stage winner and yellow jersey holder during his dominant years, he knew he would be tested more than anyone else during the Tour, not to mention all the unannounced out-of-competition tests. Please, if you have any evidence against this man, bring it forward immediately or else stop trying to denigrate his accomplishments. Steve Greene Thursday, August 7, 2008 Cadel Evans and the Beige JerseyTo all the Cadel bashers out there, I pose this simple question. If the Yellow Jersey and other race leader’s jerseys are based on time, what makes you believe you have to win a stage to earn the jersey? I am sure there are many great champions who have never won a stage of a particular race, but left with the winner’s jersey on their back. I don't hear you bashing Contador for his lacklustre, wheel sucking performance in the Giro. Check the race rules before you start bashing. No where in any rule book does it state you have to win a stage to validate the race leaders jersey. It simply says the rider with the best overall time is declared the race leader or winner. The next time you start to criticise Cadel or any other rider for not winning stages. Ask yourself this question, why aren't you wearing the maillot jaune? David Thomspon Friday, August 8, 2008 Bring back bonus seconds to liven le TourIn regards to Ben Foxworth's bonus seconds idea; that is stupid. So you want to bring back "excitement" to the Tour by allowing time bonuses. Yet in the most crucial time of the Tour, you don’t want the GC guys to contend for those seconds on the intermediate sprints? You can’t have it both ways, either the time bonuses are put in across every stage or there shouldn’t be time bonuses at all! Brooks Doughtie Thursday, August 7, 2008 Crank Length formulaQuenton, The rider height is used when addressing the population as a whole, and because the length of these letters are limited to 300 words the scope is a bit limited. To give a bit further explanation though, dividing one's height by phi (1.618033...) gives the approximate length of one's "energetic leg". By that I refer to the distance from the point in one's core where movement revolves around down to the bottom of the foot. Generally, the body’s energetic centre is slightly above the navel, though it must be noted this point is constantly shifting as we move, and it can vary widely with pathological conditions. To crosscheck against the initial formula stated (height / phi / pi / 2), and especially for the morphological exceptions amongst us, while standing perfectly upright one may measure from just above the navel down to the foot, then divide by pi and further divide by 2 to get the crank length. For reference, the initial question posed that brought about this formula was "Given a standard bicycle frame and no previous knowledge of commonly excepted and distributed crank lengths, how would one figure out the optimal crank length for Leonardo's Vitruvian Man?" This prevents back-calculating, as most crank length formulas circulating appear to have done, and it prevents arbitrary numbers from being used. This formula isn't so important to those males of average height, which is currently about 176cm in the US with a standard deviation of about 9cm. For the rider that is 182cm tall and wishes to use a 172.5mm crank instead of a custom made 179 or standard 180mm crank because they want to spin at 100rpm instead of 96rpm, I say have at it. The real utility here is for those in the population who are more than 1 standard deviation shorter or taller than the average adult male. Those within those deviations have the world built around them anyway! Joe Wiley Friday, August 8, 2008 Thank youHey Cyclingnews, I have queried the forum a couple of times and on both occasions, Steve Hogg
has been kind enough to answer. You highlighted his last answer to me as the
Anatomy of Bike Position feature. While I enjoyed the read, it posed me more
questions than I had answers. After I had done cogitating I wangled a business
trip to Australia, took the bike and hooked up with Mr Hogg. What can I say? Someone get him to the States. God knows that cycling here needs him. I wanted to say a big thank you to Cyclingnews for bringing him to our attention. And no, he doesn’t know that I have sent this mail. To him, I'm just the American guy who visited a few weeks back. Thank You John Athelstane Saturday, August 9, 2008 ConfusedA couple of questions/thoughts... Because a professional cyclist tests positive for blood doping, EPO, testosterone etc once in his career, does that mean that he has always doped? If all top athletes illegally enhance their performance (not just cyclists) does that mean that people like Chris Boardman, Paula Radcliffe, Steve Redgrave, Magnus Backstedt who all well respected and seemingly honest athletes in Great Britain are all cheats as well despite no one ever really challenging their integrity? Seth Kay Thursday, August 7, 2008 Confused #2Andrew Steele wrote "...in the same Tour Lance Armstrong was also caught in the time trial by his 5 minute man, Miguel Indurain. Yet he was able to become a world beating time trialist in later years; amazing." Hmm. Indurain was an astoundingly good time trialist going for the yellow jersey. In contrast Armstrong was at the Tour to be a good team-mate and go for a stage win from an escape. In these circumstances it would be both foolish and irresponsible to go nuts in a time trial. By all means take a pop at Armstrong but this comment just shows a rudimentary ignorance of the sport. Mark Brunning Thursday, August 7, 2008 Recent letters pagesLetters 2008
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